![]() ![]() No cross dowel or other measures are necessary. Especially on the rails use a long screw (at least 2 inch) and they hold fine. You have to mortise the headboard, footboard, and the ends of the rails for the fasteners but it is pretty easy once you make a router jig to do most of the cutting. They are totally hidden when the bed is assembled. Rockler calls the something like "heavy duty wrought steel bed rail fastners". I wish I could post a link but I can't get this computer to do that with the touchpad. There is only one of these beds that does not have the bed rail fasteners I like, after trying several options including bolts as you describe. I have 4 beds in my house I built and one of my kids has two, the other has three. I don't do any sleek modern stuff, so there's always been a way to add a good looking bolt cover, either a cast brass/bronze one or a wooden one I've made. Perhaps really high quality hanger hardware will do OK for you. Sorry, I don't know a great way to accomplish what you want. The strength (and ability to retighten whenever needed) of a through bolt with even a short tenon is hard to beat. ![]() I've had bad luck overall with threaded inserts (even ones that are epoxied in) and really wouldn't use them where there are structural stresses. The ones I use are like this: with the nut captured in the rail and a hole that penetrates the post to draw the M&T tight. I'm assuming the advantage of a bed bolt is that it pulls the rail into the post?No idea what an Amish bed bolt is- Google came up empty for me. Have you ever used or seen concealed bed bolts, Amish bed bolt as an example, where I wouldn't have to drill a hole all the way through the post and having the bolt exposed ( I could hide it as you suggested). Will the inserts hold just as well in an edge or do they need to be installed in the face ? Thanks for any suggestions. Thus the inserts would have to be installed on the edges of the 1 1/4" oak that make up the posts. Do you think the bolts/inserts will pull the rail into the posts together snug enough ? Also, since the posts have 2 vertical glue lines I prefer they aren't on the front side. I didn't want to use bed bolts because I didn't want any bolt heads showing. I was then going to attach them with inserts installed in the posts and then running the bolts through the face of the rails. This is not a mortise but a cutout so the inside face of the posts and rails are flush. I was going to rout out the inside edge of the posts a 1 1/4" x 8" cutout. The rails are 1 1/4" x 8" and the post are 3 pieces of 1 1/4" glued together thus 3 3/4" square. I'm building a king size bed frame, out of white oak, for the first time and thinking about attaching the rails to the posts using 3/8" thread inserts. ![]()
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